Credulity, Skepticism, Cynicism, & the Dunning-Kruger Effect.


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Fairly recently, Stephanie Zvan [Here] and Steven Novella [Here] posted some really good thoughts on the difference between effective, intellectually honest skepticism and cheap, lazy, cynical denialism, and on the importance of cultivating the former and avoiding the latter.

In the past, I’ve attempted to describe a belief spectrum from absolute credulity to definitive denial, but I currently think that’s an erroneous concept.

As Stephanie pointed out, except for some rare cases of neurological dysfunction, nobody is totally credulous or completely cynical about everything, but somewhere between them in more of a rock-strewn landscape of belief with surer, safer footing nearer the center than at the edges, to paraphrase her analogy.

But in the comment thread of Steve’s post, one of the commenters [Starting Here] tries very hard to prove the very thesis of cynicism the post addresses in a classic and blatant display of the Dunning-Kruger effect, by conspiracy mongering, in dishonestly ignoring or dismissing all counterarguments, attempting to assert intellectual superiority by evading questions and repeating the same talking points using glaring errors in reasoning apparent to nearly everyone else in the thread, and especially obvious to Dr. Novella.

Despite suggestions from the others, and better arguments offered by same, at no point does the offending commenter get a clue as to his own incompetence in reasoning, and repeatedly sticks to 20-30 years out-of-date books and documentaries as proof positive of his claims of evil government conspiracies in a manner that seems a bit too uncritically cynical, arrogant, and condescending for one claiming to be the better skeptic.

Exactly what was described in Steve’s main post. To a tee.

The commenter is content to claim the moral and intellectual high-ground, and not once does he note the irony of his factual errors, illogical statements and attempts to shift the burden of proof onto the other commenters, thinking his own arguments absolutely steel-girded and views flawlessly correct.

I’m going to say something I rarely feel a need to: Incompetence leads to more of the same. Some people are too clueless to notice or too resentful to acknowledge their own stupidity and project it onto others to protect their fragile egos and rice-paper thin skins.

I for one am skeptical of his claims, as I hear the same sort of absurd arguments from people whose only criticisms of science are based upon casting aspersions of motive and vested interest, thus showing quite nicely that they really don’t understand science.

As noted with the Dunning-Kruger effect, There’s an enormous difference between self-reporting how well-informed one is about something, and really being as well-informed as one claims: It’s an inverse relationship between how unduly confident one is about their understanding and how much they actually understand, ego and self-esteem aside.

People who really do know more probably tend to be more introspective and self-critical thinkers and are more aware of their own intellectual shortcomings and biases than incurious types who don’t think deeply enough to question the limits of their understanding and of their own subjective but real weaknesses.

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I seek to learn through this site and others how to better my ability as a person and my skill at using my reason and understanding to best effect. I do fractal artwork as a hobby, and I'm working to develop it to professional levels, though I've a bit to go till I reach that degree of skill! This is a crazy world we're in, but maybe I can do a little, if only that, to make it a bit more sane than it otherwise would be.

Posted on Tuesday, 0:12, December 27, 2011, in Skepticism and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. A wonderful post, as always.

    After first learning of the Dunning Kruger effect, I’ve noticed its evidence in many places. I think it can be overcome, as I don’t think it indicates a lack of intelligence or capacity for reason, but the absence of criticality and self-awareness. Pomposity, I think, can be unlearned.

  2. Some people are stupid, Troy. I fact-check many fringe claims posted to the cesspool of Before It’s News. Typically, what I find is that the proponents don’t even know their own evidence. Usually when I track down their sources I find at least one of these problems:

    1) the source is a hoax/parody
    2) the source is mere unsourced hearsay
    3) the source does not say what the claimant alleged
    4) the source does not address the issue it is meant to support

    When I point this out, their eyes don’t clear, they don’t experience a new awareness, they don’t learn modesty. Instead, they double down — and they go berserk.

    That’s a lot different than merely being insufficiently informed or not being self-aware, that’s willful stupidity. They choose stupidity and insist we all do the same.

    Facts don’t matter to these people. And they like it that way.

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